Posts by defender of truth

"Even more inappropriately, the official 1993 telememo form used by elders asked the question "How many elders felt that the victim was somewhat at fault or willingly participated in the acts?"

ww.jwfacts.com/pdf/child-abuse-watchtower-telememo-1993.pdf

Will someone please email this memo to Angus Stewart?

[email protected]

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Shameless lies of the head of Australian Betel just to protect the GB

by paradisebeauty in

watching the royal commission videos from day 6.. the head of the australian branch is such a liar.

he keeps saying they have the right to make decisions and regulations if they are in accordance with the scriptures, but we all know this is such a lie!!!!.

he is just trying to protect the gb members from bring forced to testify!!

defender of truth

Paradise beauty, would you consider emailing the quote you made from Spinks, along with my posts, to Angus Stewart? :

[email protected]

Thank you.

The person who decides the rules that must be followed by those lower down the hierarchy, has the ultimate responsibility for the results of those procedures..

(I think it's important to point out publically that the application of so-called scripturally based policies needs to be decided by the GB, not the branch. To discuss real changes, they need to talk to the Governing Body.)

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Governing Body member is in Australia right now!

by Anonymous1 in

sorry i have to remain completely anonymous about this but you will see why.

i have first hand knowledge that geoffrey jackson of the governing body is staying with his parents in toowoomba, queensland for the next few weeks.

he has already been in australia for a couple of weeks.

defender of truth

"It's made it possible for them to select a different GB member who isn't under the same strain as Jackson."

Can somebody please tell me whether the Royal Commission has the power to subpoena another member of the GB??

Jackson is the only australian GB member on Aussie soil.. I hope they haven't passed up their only chance to get a member of the GB to take the stand..

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Governing Body member is in Australia right now!

by Anonymous1 in

sorry i have to remain completely anonymous about this but you will see why.

i have first hand knowledge that geoffrey jackson of the governing body is staying with his parents in toowoomba, queensland for the next few weeks.

he has already been in australia for a couple of weeks.

defender of truth

He's technically right, the GB don't do admin work or implement anything at the local level..

I've come up with a line of reasoning on another thread to maybe help cut through the BS..

Any refinements or suggestions more than welcome :)

www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/410510005/shameless-lies-head-australian-betel-just-protect-gb?page=2#/409850005

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Shameless lies of the head of Australian Betel just to protect the GB

by paradisebeauty in

watching the royal commission videos from day 6.. the head of the australian branch is such a liar.

he keeps saying they have the right to make decisions and regulations if they are in accordance with the scriptures, but we all know this is such a lie!!!!.

he is just trying to protect the gb members from bring forced to testify!!

defender of truth

I hope you left out the 'bring in Geoffrey jackson' part.. ;)

Seriously, thank you. I hope it made sense and they consider the line of reasoning.

I don't always come across as I mean to.

(The Governing Body would have had to read and approve the infamous letter about reappointing child molesters,wouldn't they? I'm wondering if I'm right about the letters now..)

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Shameless lies of the head of Australian Betel just to protect the GB

by paradisebeauty in

watching the royal commission videos from day 6.. the head of the australian branch is such a liar.

he keeps saying they have the right to make decisions and regulations if they are in accordance with the scriptures, but we all know this is such a lie!!!!.

he is just trying to protect the gb members from bring forced to testify!!

defender of truth

Also, can someone please suggest to the RC that they ask the bethel head something along the lines of..
"Did the Governing Body have to approve the material contained in the Shepherd the Flock book (latest elders manual), before it could be distributed to overseers in the various congregations? *Yes*
And do the elders have to follow the instructions contained in this book, including the procedure for dealing with incidents of Child abuse? *Yes*
Does the same apply to confidential letters already submitted, that concern how to deal with those accused of committing child abuse? Did the Governing Body have to read and approve those as well, before they were sent out as instructions to the elders?
Then the Governing Body are responsible for setting the procedure for dealing with child abuse within the organisation.
Bring in Geoffrey Jackson!! "
Seriously, can someone make a suggestion like this?
My emails are monitored by my parents, I don't have the guts to email the RC.

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Shameless lies of the head of Australian Betel just to protect the GB

by paradisebeauty in

watching the royal commission videos from day 6.. the head of the australian branch is such a liar.

he keeps saying they have the right to make decisions and regulations if they are in accordance with the scriptures, but we all know this is such a lie!!!!.

he is just trying to protect the gb members from bring forced to testify!!

defender of truth

(Sorry i'll hopefully make it readable this time)
Also, can someone please suggest to the RC that they ask the bethel head something along the lines of..
"Did the Governing Body have to approve the material contained in the Shepherd the Flock book (latest elders manual), before it could be distributed to overseers in the various congregations? *Yes*
And do the elders have to follow the instructions contained in this book, including the procedure for dealing with incidents of Child abuse? *Yes*
Does the same apply to confidential letters already submitted, that concern how to deal with those accused of committing child abuse? Did the Governing Body have to read and approve those as well, before they were sent out as instructions to the elders?
Then the Governing Body are responsible for setting the procedure for dealing with child abuse within the organisation.
Bring in Geoffrey Jackson!! "
Seriously, can someone make a suggestion like this?
My emails are monitored by my parents, I don't have the guts to email the RC.
[email protected]

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Shameless lies of the head of Australian Betel just to protect the GB

by paradisebeauty in

watching the royal commission videos from day 6.. the head of the australian branch is such a liar.

he keeps saying they have the right to make decisions and regulations if they are in accordance with the scriptures, but we all know this is such a lie!!!!.

he is just trying to protect the gb members from bring forced to testify!!

defender of truth

Also, can someone please suggest to the RC that they ask the bethel head something along the lines of..

"Did the Governing Body have to approve the material contained in the Shepherd the Flock book (latest elders manual), before it could be distributed to overseers in the various congregations? *Yes*

And do the elders have to follow the instructions contained in this book, including the procedure for dealing with incidents of Child abuse? *Yes*

Does the same apply to confidential letters already submitted, that concern how to deal with those accused of committing child abuse? Did the Governing Body have to read and approve those as well, before they were sent out as instructions to the elders?

Then the Governing Body are responsible for setting the procedure for dealing with child abuse within the organisation.

Bring in Geoffrey Jackson!! "

Seriously, can someone make a suggestion like this?

My emails are monitored by my parents, I don't have the guts to email the RC.

[email protected]

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Shameless lies of the head of Australian Betel just to protect the GB

by paradisebeauty in

watching the royal commission videos from day 6.. the head of the australian branch is such a liar.

he keeps saying they have the right to make decisions and regulations if they are in accordance with the scriptures, but we all know this is such a lie!!!!.

he is just trying to protect the gb members from bring forced to testify!!

defender of truth

The RC needs to be informed ASAP that it is the Governing Body that approve the Two Witness policy (the way they scripturally decide to apply it to child sexual abuse), and that are responsible for the instructional letters, the ones on how to scripturally handle important matters, that are sent to elders.. even if the instructions are passed on via the branch.

All this is from their official site..

"The Governing Body is a small group of mature Christians who provide direction for Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide.

The Governing Body follows the pattern set by “the apostles and elders in Jerusalem” in the first century, who made important decisions on behalf of the entire Christian congregation.

How is the Governing Body organized?

The Governing Body has established six committees to oversee various aspects of our work, and each member serves on one or more of these committees.

...

Teaching Committee: Directs the preparation of spiritual instruction provided by means of meetings, schools, and audio and video programs.

Writing Committee: Directs the preparation of spiritual instruction provided in printed form and on our website and oversees translation work.

In addition to its work through these committees, the Governing Body meets each week to consider the needs of the organization."

www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/governing-body/

" In the first century, a small group, “the apostles and elders in Jerusalem,” served as a governing body to make important decisions on behalf of the entire anointed Christian congregation. (Acts 15:2)

When they made a unanimous decision, it was a result of discussing what the Scriptures say and yielding to the influence of God’s spirit. (Acts 15:25) That pattern is followed today...

It is being used by God to do his will. The anointed brothers who serve on the Governing Body have an intense interest in God’s Word and much experience in handling practical and spiritual matters. They meet each week to consider the needs of the worldwide brotherhood.

As in the first century, Bible-based instructions are provided either through letters or by means of traveling overseers and others. This promotes unity in thought and action among God’s people. (Acts 16:4, 5) The Governing Body oversees the preparation of spiritual food, gives impetus to the Kingdom-preaching work, and supervises the appointment of brothers to positions of responsibility. "

www.jw.org/en/publications/books/jehovahs-will/jehovahs-witnesses-governing-body/

And if anyone has other evidence of the GB approving all scripturally based policies, please put this information together with it ..

And Email it to the Royal Commission.

We could make a difference.

Can someone please email them?